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		<title>By: Michael DeFoe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael DeFoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 May 2010 00:06:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always trusted that you still battle - that you always have. As I know Resistance (from my experience and named by your writing), it will always be there. That&#039;s reassuring, because I know to keep fighting. There&#039;s purpose behind my discipline.

Now that I&#039;m stronger, that I recognize Resistance and combat it daily and dig deep beyond it, I&#039;m at the cusp of a decision. I&#039;m tending to the balance between Apollo and Dionysus. I&#039;ve relied on Apollo during these amateur years. I couldn&#039;t trust Dionysus with my lips let alone my life. I&#039;m now looking at the outstretched hand of Intoxication and I&#039;m afraid.

We were so reckless together. We burned it all down. There were lessons learned, about myself - deep lessons that I rely on now. Apollo took me in to teach me, to save me. Can I leave him now to return? Will they share?

Your post today was so prescient. I&#039;m asking myself the question today. Am I ready? &quot;Trust it&quot; you replied, months ago.

I&#039;m retooled, recalibrated - its not fair how smooth I run. Yes Steven, I&#039;m back in the game. Thanks for saying what I already knew. Here, before and many times more I hope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always trusted that you still battle &#8211; that you always have. As I know Resistance (from my experience and named by your writing), it will always be there. That&#8217;s reassuring, because I know to keep fighting. There&#8217;s purpose behind my discipline.</p>
<p>Now that I&#8217;m stronger, that I recognize Resistance and combat it daily and dig deep beyond it, I&#8217;m at the cusp of a decision. I&#8217;m tending to the balance between Apollo and Dionysus. I&#8217;ve relied on Apollo during these amateur years. I couldn&#8217;t trust Dionysus with my lips let alone my life. I&#8217;m now looking at the outstretched hand of Intoxication and I&#8217;m afraid.</p>
<p>We were so reckless together. We burned it all down. There were lessons learned, about myself &#8211; deep lessons that I rely on now. Apollo took me in to teach me, to save me. Can I leave him now to return? Will they share?</p>
<p>Your post today was so prescient. I&#8217;m asking myself the question today. Am I ready? &#8220;Trust it&#8221; you replied, months ago.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m retooled, recalibrated &#8211; its not fair how smooth I run. Yes Steven, I&#8217;m back in the game. Thanks for saying what I already knew. Here, before and many times more I hope.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Case</title>
		<link>http://www.stevenpressfield.com/2010/02/writing-wednesdays-28-depth-of-work/comment-page-4/#comment-2829</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Case</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 18:26:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Steven,

I’m only today getting acquainted with this blog because I am currently listening to the audiobook version of The War of Art (via a reference in Seth Godin’s Linchpin, I believe). WoA is having such an impact on me (like countless others I’m certain, I feel like you wrote it For Me), I had to utilize Google and the net to find out more about you.

Upon reading this particular post, I wanted to say how refreshing it is to read your comments about recent doubts, ‘scatteredness’(?), shallowness, etc. I almost used the word brave, but maybe you’d find that distasteful! Anyway, for myself, I actually find a bit of comfort in hearing that yes, even you- the guy who brought this great stuff into the world with such clarity, honesty, and insight- even you continue to fight the great, and ultimately worthwhile fight. After coming to terms with just how diabolical the resistance can be, could we have ever thought otherwise?

And then another thought (which was likely expressed by one of your other readers; I haven’t read through the other comments yet).. perhaps you just haven’t yet found that thing that has grabbed you enough to compel you to get back to that place you were in while writing Tides of War?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Steven,</p>
<p>I’m only today getting acquainted with this blog because I am currently listening to the audiobook version of The War of Art (via a reference in Seth Godin’s Linchpin, I believe). WoA is having such an impact on me (like countless others I’m certain, I feel like you wrote it For Me), I had to utilize Google and the net to find out more about you.</p>
<p>Upon reading this particular post, I wanted to say how refreshing it is to read your comments about recent doubts, ‘scatteredness’(?), shallowness, etc. I almost used the word brave, but maybe you’d find that distasteful! Anyway, for myself, I actually find a bit of comfort in hearing that yes, even you- the guy who brought this great stuff into the world with such clarity, honesty, and insight- even you continue to fight the great, and ultimately worthwhile fight. After coming to terms with just how diabolical the resistance can be, could we have ever thought otherwise?</p>
<p>And then another thought (which was likely expressed by one of your other readers; I haven’t read through the other comments yet).. perhaps you just haven’t yet found that thing that has grabbed you enough to compel you to get back to that place you were in while writing Tides of War?</p>
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		<title>By: Samantha Brightwell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Samantha Brightwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 00:17:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh what a ditz...

note to self: don&#039;t use HTML tags if you don&#039;t know how to close them, girl.

my apologies. only the quote was supposed to be in italics. obviously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh what a ditz&#8230;</p>
<p>note to self: don&#8217;t use HTML tags if you don&#8217;t know how to close them, girl.</p>
<p>my apologies. only the quote was supposed to be in italics. obviously.</p>
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		<title>By: Samantha Brightwell</title>
		<link>http://www.stevenpressfield.com/2010/02/writing-wednesdays-28-depth-of-work/comment-page-3/#comment-2827</link>
		<dc:creator>Samantha Brightwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 00:13:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad I read Depth of Work #2 before I read this first installment! I think you&#039;ve answered my first question:

&lt;em&gt;Those mornings were depth of work. I had momentum, I had commitment over time; I was busting my butt and really going deep, into a subject that I loved and that I didn’t care whether anybody else was interested in or not./&lt;em&gt;

The problem with blogging and writing on the web is the facility for instant feedback. And the difficulty is remaining immune to this. Really going deep requires the commitment to stick to your purpose and intentions, regardless of whether anyone else is interested in it or not. I get it now.

I know I can do good work, regularly, and bad work at times too, but I want to do great work. And if that requires a greater retreat from the outside world, so be it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad I read Depth of Work #2 before I read this first installment! I think you&#8217;ve answered my first question:</p>
<p><em>Those mornings were depth of work. I had momentum, I had commitment over time; I was busting my butt and really going deep, into a subject that I loved and that I didn’t care whether anybody else was interested in or not./</em><em></p>
<p>The problem with blogging and writing on the web is the facility for instant feedback. And the difficulty is remaining immune to this. Really going deep requires the commitment to stick to your purpose and intentions, regardless of whether anyone else is interested in it or not. I get it now.</p>
<p>I know I can do good work, regularly, and bad work at times too, but I want to do great work. And if that requires a greater retreat from the outside world, so be it.</em></p>
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		<title>By: johnmark7</title>
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		<dc:creator>johnmark7</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 22:25:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny. I got criticized for cheap armchair psycho-analyzing when I said that Steven needed to go deep, that his craft had plateaued and was a bore to him. Now Steven admits he slipped into hack level for approval and commerce&#039;s sake (which is not a crime to want to make money).

The real pain level, the way into the depths is through prayer.  Depth only comes with honest self-knowledge. Self-knowledge only comes through prayer. Prayer isn&#039;t a panacea or a petition, it&#039;s way into the ugly Self safely.

The more you discover about God&#039;s actual nature, you will correspondingly know about your own. This isn&#039;t mystical or mysterious. It&#039;s simply Process of Truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny. I got criticized for cheap armchair psycho-analyzing when I said that Steven needed to go deep, that his craft had plateaued and was a bore to him. Now Steven admits he slipped into hack level for approval and commerce&#8217;s sake (which is not a crime to want to make money).</p>
<p>The real pain level, the way into the depths is through prayer.  Depth only comes with honest self-knowledge. Self-knowledge only comes through prayer. Prayer isn&#8217;t a panacea or a petition, it&#8217;s way into the ugly Self safely.</p>
<p>The more you discover about God&#8217;s actual nature, you will correspondingly know about your own. This isn&#8217;t mystical or mysterious. It&#8217;s simply Process of Truth.</p>
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		<title>By: Todd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 22:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you found the topic for your next book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you found the topic for your next book.</p>
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		<title>By: Annie Stith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Annie Stith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 09:32:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve suspected for some time that well-read authors have times when they struggle with the depth when putting words to paper (or text file, as the case may be). Thank you for being so candid about being as human as the rest of us.

Annie
(First blog not yet published)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve suspected for some time that well-read authors have times when they struggle with the depth when putting words to paper (or text file, as the case may be). Thank you for being so candid about being as human as the rest of us.</p>
<p>Annie<br />
(First blog not yet published)</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Scriver</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary Scriver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 04:31:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a co-writer.  I write 1,000 words on my own blog every morning, as disciplined and edited as I can get it in 24 hours.  In the afternoon I respond to my co-writer, Tim Barrus.  A lot of people know Tim.  He&#039;s as passionate, risky, off-the-wall, and sometimes outright bananas as a writer can be.  For instance, he says he loathes books now and will do nothing but videos.  The more taboo his subject matter, the better he likes it.  I&#039;m almost a recluse in a small Montana town; he runs an art school with a lot of at-risk boys who have HIV-AIDS in Paris.

BUT he makes me think and stretch and go dig out my old theology notes.  AND I&#039;m an anchor and docking point for him.  I collect all his debris, sort, and find the through-line.  He&#039;s the lightning and I&#039;m the bottle.  Except for the times we swap and I&#039;m the sail while he&#039;s the keelboard.   I&#039;m seventy; he&#039;s sixty.  We&#039;ve both been around.

I&#039;ve never done this with anyone else.  He&#039;s done it, but not quite this way.  We get really angry sometimes but have the trust to cool off and the kindness to leave each other space, gates, places to hide for a while.

My skills are growing.  You&#039;d have to ask him what he thinks about his.  Someday we might even manage to sell this synergy, but it&#039;s so much fun that it doesn&#039;t matter a whole lot.

Richard Stern and Saul Bellow used to write together.  One at one end of the dining table and the other at the other.  They wrote different things, but read out parts to each other.  Both loved it, benefited from it.  MUST one struggle alone?

Prairie Mary</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a co-writer.  I write 1,000 words on my own blog every morning, as disciplined and edited as I can get it in 24 hours.  In the afternoon I respond to my co-writer, Tim Barrus.  A lot of people know Tim.  He&#8217;s as passionate, risky, off-the-wall, and sometimes outright bananas as a writer can be.  For instance, he says he loathes books now and will do nothing but videos.  The more taboo his subject matter, the better he likes it.  I&#8217;m almost a recluse in a small Montana town; he runs an art school with a lot of at-risk boys who have HIV-AIDS in Paris.</p>
<p>BUT he makes me think and stretch and go dig out my old theology notes.  AND I&#8217;m an anchor and docking point for him.  I collect all his debris, sort, and find the through-line.  He&#8217;s the lightning and I&#8217;m the bottle.  Except for the times we swap and I&#8217;m the sail while he&#8217;s the keelboard.   I&#8217;m seventy; he&#8217;s sixty.  We&#8217;ve both been around.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never done this with anyone else.  He&#8217;s done it, but not quite this way.  We get really angry sometimes but have the trust to cool off and the kindness to leave each other space, gates, places to hide for a while.</p>
<p>My skills are growing.  You&#8217;d have to ask him what he thinks about his.  Someday we might even manage to sell this synergy, but it&#8217;s so much fun that it doesn&#8217;t matter a whole lot.</p>
<p>Richard Stern and Saul Bellow used to write together.  One at one end of the dining table and the other at the other.  They wrote different things, but read out parts to each other.  Both loved it, benefited from it.  MUST one struggle alone?</p>
<p>Prairie Mary</p>
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		<title>By: Angela Whitacre</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angela Whitacre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 23:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a new mom of a 14-month-old -- when do we stop being &quot;new&quot;? -- I relate to what Guinevere is saying.  I hadn&#039;t noticed or considered the masculinity of the point of view from which WofA was written.  I don&#039;t necessarily think that Mr. Pressfield intended that -- and I&#039;m not suggesting that Guinevere is saying that either -- but her comment really hit a nerve with me as I am struggling with the whole balancing of motherhood versus creative endeavors.  Even though you know what a commitment it is to have a child, you never know really how much of a commitment and sacrifice it is until you get there.  And without disparaging the role of fathers and what the wonderful men in our lives do, it isn&#039;t the same for them.  There is no going off to war or bringing home the bacon for mothers without a deep-seated guilt for being separated from our little ones.  Getting online to read my favorite blogs is a luxury now, an activity that is conducted in the dead of night when the household sleeps.  The description of working deep in Scotland sounds dreamy, but there&#039;s no way in the world I&#039;d leave my child for any opportunity like that...even for a couple of weeks...or days.  I think Guinevere&#039;s term &quot;surrender&quot; about sums it up.  You have to surrender to motherhood.  That doesn&#039;t keep me from picking away at the novel daily, but everything comes second.  And it feels like a bit of a loss sometimes, but it&#039;s necessary...and I couldn&#039;t change it even if I wanted to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a new mom of a 14-month-old &#8212; when do we stop being &#8220;new&#8221;? &#8212; I relate to what Guinevere is saying.  I hadn&#8217;t noticed or considered the masculinity of the point of view from which WofA was written.  I don&#8217;t necessarily think that Mr. Pressfield intended that &#8212; and I&#8217;m not suggesting that Guinevere is saying that either &#8212; but her comment really hit a nerve with me as I am struggling with the whole balancing of motherhood versus creative endeavors.  Even though you know what a commitment it is to have a child, you never know really how much of a commitment and sacrifice it is until you get there.  And without disparaging the role of fathers and what the wonderful men in our lives do, it isn&#8217;t the same for them.  There is no going off to war or bringing home the bacon for mothers without a deep-seated guilt for being separated from our little ones.  Getting online to read my favorite blogs is a luxury now, an activity that is conducted in the dead of night when the household sleeps.  The description of working deep in Scotland sounds dreamy, but there&#8217;s no way in the world I&#8217;d leave my child for any opportunity like that&#8230;even for a couple of weeks&#8230;or days.  I think Guinevere&#8217;s term &#8220;surrender&#8221; about sums it up.  You have to surrender to motherhood.  That doesn&#8217;t keep me from picking away at the novel daily, but everything comes second.  And it feels like a bit of a loss sometimes, but it&#8217;s necessary&#8230;and I couldn&#8217;t change it even if I wanted to.</p>
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		<title>By: J</title>
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		<dc:creator>J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 21:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you so much for taking the time and energy to write this. This is EXACTLY what I am dealing with in my life and not even on a creative-level, a LIFE level. My life is void of depth. Can&#039;t solve the problem until you can name it, so thank you again for writing this and naming it. Now I can move forward a create depth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you so much for taking the time and energy to write this. This is EXACTLY what I am dealing with in my life and not even on a creative-level, a LIFE level. My life is void of depth. Can&#8217;t solve the problem until you can name it, so thank you again for writing this and naming it. Now I can move forward a create depth.</p>
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