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		<title>By: Erika Whiteway</title>
		<link>http://www.stevenpressfield.com/2012/07/art-and-polarity/comment-page-2/#comment-50604</link>
		<dc:creator>Erika Whiteway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2012 00:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having compassion for our despicable characters, as  said is about having compassion for ourselves, our dark side. No person and hence no character is entirely good or entirely evil, we have to embrace evil (this reminds me of Colonel Kurtz in &#039;Apocalypse Now&#039;, the scene of him in his bunker when he is confronted by Charlie Sheen and Kurtz looks out of the darkness and says, &#039;...the horror...the horror...&#039;) to understand it so that we may be effective people, not just writers, in a cruel world that demands our attention. One either succumbs, as Kurtz does, to evil or one rises above it, and there is no black or white about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having compassion for our despicable characters, as  said is about having compassion for ourselves, our dark side. No person and hence no character is entirely good or entirely evil, we have to embrace evil (this reminds me of Colonel Kurtz in &#8216;Apocalypse Now&#8217;, the scene of him in his bunker when he is confronted by Charlie Sheen and Kurtz looks out of the darkness and says, &#8216;&#8230;the horror&#8230;the horror&#8230;&#8217;) to understand it so that we may be effective people, not just writers, in a cruel world that demands our attention. One either succumbs, as Kurtz does, to evil or one rises above it, and there is no black or white about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Gray</title>
		<link>http://www.stevenpressfield.com/2012/07/art-and-polarity/comment-page-1/#comment-50545</link>
		<dc:creator>Gray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2012 16:28:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not that I can speak for Steven, but I don&#039;t think that the two are mutually exclusive. I believe you can be both compassionate and realistic. To invoke Godwin&#039;s Law early, I really can sympathize with the frustrated artistic ambitions of a young Adolf Hitler. That&#039;s fine - it doesn&#039;t change the rest of the things that were done, or mitigate them.

Like you, I enjoy literature that shows the full dimensionality of character, where rather than black hats and white hats everyone is wearing their true colors. It&#039;s one of the reasons I enjoy the Indian mythos so much: the heroes have flaws, the villains have virtues, and as a result it is easier to identify with them for an average audience. 

In the initial example, I think the point is that when the guy says &quot;I don&#039;t wanna judge&quot; he seems to be not judging the &lt;em&gt;acts&lt;/em&gt; as well as the person. Is everyone who cheats, has a DWI, etc. evil? No, of course not. But they also have to be held responsible for their actions, and make restitution. If that sentence had been followed by &quot;Nice how the counseling helped him and his wife, and he&#039;s been Clean &amp; Sober for three years now. Jill &amp; her daughter also got a written apology hand-delivered to her house by him when he realized how much his words had hurt.&quot; That changes the story, without taking away from the initial impact of the actions.

Again, can&#039;t speak for Steven. But what I took away from this is that while you can&#039;t change what has been done, you can&#039;t just dismiss it, either. &quot;The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is etc.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not that I can speak for Steven, but I don&#8217;t think that the two are mutually exclusive. I believe you can be both compassionate and realistic. To invoke Godwin&#8217;s Law early, I really can sympathize with the frustrated artistic ambitions of a young Adolf Hitler. That&#8217;s fine &#8211; it doesn&#8217;t change the rest of the things that were done, or mitigate them.</p>
<p>Like you, I enjoy literature that shows the full dimensionality of character, where rather than black hats and white hats everyone is wearing their true colors. It&#8217;s one of the reasons I enjoy the Indian mythos so much: the heroes have flaws, the villains have virtues, and as a result it is easier to identify with them for an average audience. </p>
<p>In the initial example, I think the point is that when the guy says &#8220;I don&#8217;t wanna judge&#8221; he seems to be not judging the <em>acts</em> as well as the person. Is everyone who cheats, has a DWI, etc. evil? No, of course not. But they also have to be held responsible for their actions, and make restitution. If that sentence had been followed by &#8220;Nice how the counseling helped him and his wife, and he&#8217;s been Clean &amp; Sober for three years now. Jill &amp; her daughter also got a written apology hand-delivered to her house by him when he realized how much his words had hurt.&#8221; That changes the story, without taking away from the initial impact of the actions.</p>
<p>Again, can&#8217;t speak for Steven. But what I took away from this is that while you can&#8217;t change what has been done, you can&#8217;t just dismiss it, either. &#8220;The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is etc.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Anne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2012 02:31:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A true story:  I came to Wellington, New Zealand, in 1991.  I am from Chicago and lived 18 yrs in NYC.  In 1995, New Zealand won America&#039;s Cup for sailing - only the 2nd country in 145 yrs to do so.  I was standing in the town square with at least 2,000 other people when Peter Blake and his team came on and held up this huge, beautiful cup.  I started yelling (Yea, yea...) as loud as I could.  I was the only one making a sound.  Everyone else was silent.  I couldn&#039;t believe it.  It was really spooky.  I knew everyone there felt immense pride and had showed up to express it.

Nowadays, things are more boisterous, but the national character here is still to keep your mouth shut and not reveal who you are.  There is talking behind someone&#039;s back as well as saying nothing.  Many people do not want to show who they really are. They don&#039;t want to be disliked or appear &quot;rude.&quot;  

As I said, things have changed some.  I try to tell the truth with kindness and respect.  In some cases, I check to see if someone is open to my opinion before I offer it. I talk to my New Zealand friends about how dishonest this trait seems to me.  I encourage them  to tell me the truth and then thank them for it.

In closing, I see more people speaking up by imitating the straightforwardness of others.  I really embrace it when they don&#039;t use other voices and styles as an intermediary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A true story:  I came to Wellington, New Zealand, in 1991.  I am from Chicago and lived 18 yrs in NYC.  In 1995, New Zealand won America&#8217;s Cup for sailing &#8211; only the 2nd country in 145 yrs to do so.  I was standing in the town square with at least 2,000 other people when Peter Blake and his team came on and held up this huge, beautiful cup.  I started yelling (Yea, yea&#8230;) as loud as I could.  I was the only one making a sound.  Everyone else was silent.  I couldn&#8217;t believe it.  It was really spooky.  I knew everyone there felt immense pride and had showed up to express it.</p>
<p>Nowadays, things are more boisterous, but the national character here is still to keep your mouth shut and not reveal who you are.  There is talking behind someone&#8217;s back as well as saying nothing.  Many people do not want to show who they really are. They don&#8217;t want to be disliked or appear &#8220;rude.&#8221;  </p>
<p>As I said, things have changed some.  I try to tell the truth with kindness and respect.  In some cases, I check to see if someone is open to my opinion before I offer it. I talk to my New Zealand friends about how dishonest this trait seems to me.  I encourage them  to tell me the truth and then thank them for it.</p>
<p>In closing, I see more people speaking up by imitating the straightforwardness of others.  I really embrace it when they don&#8217;t use other voices and styles as an intermediary.</p>
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		<title>By: Pippi Hepburn</title>
		<link>http://www.stevenpressfield.com/2012/07/art-and-polarity/comment-page-2/#comment-50503</link>
		<dc:creator>Pippi Hepburn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2012 23:50:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just so timely for me, so inspirational and simply true.  I am so motivated to A. just be more open and honest when people are just not right, and B. think about this piece and doing some beautiful work.  Just makes sense, when you do work you review it and judge it, same with those who need to be told.  Judging is good.  Thank you, Steven.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just so timely for me, so inspirational and simply true.  I am so motivated to A. just be more open and honest when people are just not right, and B. think about this piece and doing some beautiful work.  Just makes sense, when you do work you review it and judge it, same with those who need to be told.  Judging is good.  Thank you, Steven.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Kanaley</title>
		<link>http://www.stevenpressfield.com/2012/07/art-and-polarity/comment-page-2/#comment-50497</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Kanaley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2012 18:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said, Shawn.

It&#039;s important that we develop our own opinions and make judgements, and it seems so strange people are afraid to make their own judgements based on the fact that others will pass judgements back. It&#039;s almost as if people choose to opt out entirely in hopes of establishing an impossible neutrality. I think the key lies in developing strong judgements and stances, but holding them loosely and being ready to reevaluate and adjust them if you discover them to be mistaken.

Love the site, and great post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said, Shawn.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s important that we develop our own opinions and make judgements, and it seems so strange people are afraid to make their own judgements based on the fact that others will pass judgements back. It&#8217;s almost as if people choose to opt out entirely in hopes of establishing an impossible neutrality. I think the key lies in developing strong judgements and stances, but holding them loosely and being ready to reevaluate and adjust them if you discover them to be mistaken.</p>
<p>Love the site, and great post.</p>
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		<title>By: daedalus</title>
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		<dc:creator>daedalus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2012 20:10:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well done.
To &#039;judge&#039; or not.
Alas, most today are fearful of even mentioning the
butchery of the &#039;communist idealists&#039; of these many
years. Better to go softly under that scythe of White Genocide than stand up and ... what ... fight?

thanks again,

daedalus</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well done.<br />
To &#8216;judge&#8217; or not.<br />
Alas, most today are fearful of even mentioning the<br />
butchery of the &#8216;communist idealists&#8217; of these many<br />
years. Better to go softly under that scythe of White Genocide than stand up and &#8230; what &#8230; fight?</p>
<p>thanks again,</p>
<p>daedalus</p>
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		<title>By: Basilis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Basilis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2012 14:21:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great comments and thoughts from all the above. I have to add that the article&#039;s ending sentence is so true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great comments and thoughts from all the above. I have to add that the article&#8217;s ending sentence is so true.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2012 13:05:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great Shawn! 

That last line goes into my copybook of inspiring phrases with your name under it. Thank you very much for the wise words and the lesson.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great Shawn! </p>
<p>That last line goes into my copybook of inspiring phrases with your name under it. Thank you very much for the wise words and the lesson.</p>
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		<title>By: Valorie Grace Hallinan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Valorie Grace Hallinan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2012 12:50:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a great post about judging and art, and your insights can help us become stronger writers. In real life, though, which your opening anecdote seems to be from, I can imagine myself as the speaker you call passive aggressive. I struggle with not judging (in real life) because we never really know the whole story about someone, and there is way too much judging being hurled back and forth today. Lord knows, I&#039;m not perfect. Ultimately, we have to have compassion for all of our characters, too, even the despicable ones. Sometimes people refrain from judging, not so people won&#039;t like them, but because many spiritual paths teach this. It&#039;s complicated. But I can see how taking the middle path can lead to bland art that doesn&#039;t really say anything. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a great post about judging and art, and your insights can help us become stronger writers. In real life, though, which your opening anecdote seems to be from, I can imagine myself as the speaker you call passive aggressive. I struggle with not judging (in real life) because we never really know the whole story about someone, and there is way too much judging being hurled back and forth today. Lord knows, I&#8217;m not perfect. Ultimately, we have to have compassion for all of our characters, too, even the despicable ones. Sometimes people refrain from judging, not so people won&#8217;t like them, but because many spiritual paths teach this. It&#8217;s complicated. But I can see how taking the middle path can lead to bland art that doesn&#8217;t really say anything. <img src='http://www.stevenpressfield.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Wolf Rimbaud</title>
		<link>http://www.stevenpressfield.com/2012/07/art-and-polarity/comment-page-2/#comment-50459</link>
		<dc:creator>Wolf Rimbaud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2012 00:45:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unbelievable! A blog that actually says something. Bravo!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unbelievable! A blog that actually says something. Bravo!</p>
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