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	<title>Comments on: Dropping a Bomb, Laying an Egg, and Doing the Work</title>
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		<title>By: Callie Oettinger</title>
		<link>http://www.stevenpressfield.com/2012/07/dropping-a-bomb-laying-and-egg-and-doing-the-work/comment-page-1/#comment-50674</link>
		<dc:creator>Callie Oettinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2012 10:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your reply, Regina. I agree with you r.e. dissection as art. Art is a personal term, and it exists in different forms. We&#039;d be pressed to find an artist whom everyone in the world loves, but we could probably all agree that &quot;doing the work&quot; is something  they all share.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your reply, Regina. I agree with you r.e. dissection as art. Art is a personal term, and it exists in different forms. We&#8217;d be pressed to find an artist whom everyone in the world loves, but we could probably all agree that &#8220;doing the work&#8221; is something  they all share.</p>
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		<title>By: Callie Oettinger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Callie Oettinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2012 10:17:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t remember the exact quote, but Hemingway talked about fakes - people who could do something once, but couldn&#039;t keep it up. And that &quot;once&quot; could be a whole book, or just one good conversation. They weren&#039;t consistent. &quot;Fresh&quot; came along once. 

I always think about that quote (need to dig it out) because it&#039;s hard to come up with something fresh over and over again. Hemingway did it with his books. Babe Didrikson did it as an athlete. There are serial entrepreneurs who do it, starting one company after another - and some who create one company, and are creative within it for decades. 

So is it one fresh idea that is recreated/redefined through the years or a series of fresh ideas? And how do you tap into fresh and know you have it? I don&#039;t have answer. 

End of day, though, one thing I know for certain is that all the ideas in the world don&#039;t matter if they aren&#039;t implemented.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t remember the exact quote, but Hemingway talked about fakes &#8211; people who could do something once, but couldn&#8217;t keep it up. And that &#8220;once&#8221; could be a whole book, or just one good conversation. They weren&#8217;t consistent. &#8220;Fresh&#8221; came along once. </p>
<p>I always think about that quote (need to dig it out) because it&#8217;s hard to come up with something fresh over and over again. Hemingway did it with his books. Babe Didrikson did it as an athlete. There are serial entrepreneurs who do it, starting one company after another &#8211; and some who create one company, and are creative within it for decades. </p>
<p>So is it one fresh idea that is recreated/redefined through the years or a series of fresh ideas? And how do you tap into fresh and know you have it? I don&#8217;t have answer. </p>
<p>End of day, though, one thing I know for certain is that all the ideas in the world don&#8217;t matter if they aren&#8217;t implemented.</p>
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		<title>By: Callie Oettinger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Callie Oettinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2012 10:06:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Sonja!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Sonja!</p>
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		<title>By: Callie Oettinger</title>
		<link>http://www.stevenpressfield.com/2012/07/dropping-a-bomb-laying-and-egg-and-doing-the-work/comment-page-1/#comment-50671</link>
		<dc:creator>Callie Oettinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2012 10:05:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for your reply. 

The goal for the post was to show another individual who, end of day, offers the same advice for advancing within his career: Do the work. Whether you are a writer, a painter, an athlete, an entrepreneur or a comedian, the common theme is: Do the work.

As to whether Hope is an artist, it&#039;s all about personal preference. 

When I was a kid, if someone mentioned the word artist, I assumed it referred to a painter. As I grew, it expanded to musicians and writers. Now, I look at scientists, mathematicians, and teachers as artists, too. For me, it defines people who stand out for their unique, consistent, approaches and non-stop perseverance. I understand that others have different definitions. This is mine.

Hope did fall back on the traditional. But if you gave someone else his material, they might not receive the same laugh. So there&#039;s an art to the presentation, too. Best ever? Not necessarily. An artist? Yes. 

Do I hold him as high as I do Hemingway and Picasso? No. Do I recognize the art in his work? Yes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your reply. </p>
<p>The goal for the post was to show another individual who, end of day, offers the same advice for advancing within his career: Do the work. Whether you are a writer, a painter, an athlete, an entrepreneur or a comedian, the common theme is: Do the work.</p>
<p>As to whether Hope is an artist, it&#8217;s all about personal preference. </p>
<p>When I was a kid, if someone mentioned the word artist, I assumed it referred to a painter. As I grew, it expanded to musicians and writers. Now, I look at scientists, mathematicians, and teachers as artists, too. For me, it defines people who stand out for their unique, consistent, approaches and non-stop perseverance. I understand that others have different definitions. This is mine.</p>
<p>Hope did fall back on the traditional. But if you gave someone else his material, they might not receive the same laugh. So there&#8217;s an art to the presentation, too. Best ever? Not necessarily. An artist? Yes. </p>
<p>Do I hold him as high as I do Hemingway and Picasso? No. Do I recognize the art in his work? Yes.</p>
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		<title>By: NoHope</title>
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		<dc:creator>NoHope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2012 07:53:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dissection could be art, but Hitchens gave his whole life for more than that.

My art gets slammed too. But getting slammed is not a sufficient condition for making art.

Bob Hope is not above criticism.  The man was not funny.  And buried in my response is an unanswered rebuttal to Steven Pressfield and his acolytes: what, qualitatively, is art?  Plenty of people turn a dime on less worthy pursuits than that huckster.  Are they artists?

Steven Pressfield assumes his writing applies beyond the rareified and clubby world of screenplays.  But does it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dissection could be art, but Hitchens gave his whole life for more than that.</p>
<p>My art gets slammed too. But getting slammed is not a sufficient condition for making art.</p>
<p>Bob Hope is not above criticism.  The man was not funny.  And buried in my response is an unanswered rebuttal to Steven Pressfield and his acolytes: what, qualitatively, is art?  Plenty of people turn a dime on less worthy pursuits than that huckster.  Are they artists?</p>
<p>Steven Pressfield assumes his writing applies beyond the rareified and clubby world of screenplays.  But does it?</p>
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		<title>By: McConnell</title>
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		<dc:creator>McConnell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2012 10:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>His antagonism toward Hope may be what makes Hitchens inimitable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>His antagonism toward Hope may be what makes Hitchens inimitable.</p>
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		<title>By: Regina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Regina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2012 13:29:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob Hope can get slammed like that?  When my work comes out and I&#039;m slammed like this, I&#039;ll know I&#039;m in excellent company. Like it or not, Bob Hope is a classic and has been enjoyed by so many with aching bellyies and tears streaming. He&#039;s an artist. Dissection could be art, if it&#039;s done on meat.  My2cents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob Hope can get slammed like that?  When my work comes out and I&#8217;m slammed like this, I&#8217;ll know I&#8217;m in excellent company. Like it or not, Bob Hope is a classic and has been enjoyed by so many with aching bellyies and tears streaming. He&#8217;s an artist. Dissection could be art, if it&#8217;s done on meat.  My2cents.</p>
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		<title>By: Phillip</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phillip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2012 20:29:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nothing better to do than criticize Bob Hope?  I&#039;d guess it doesn&#039;t take an artist to be a critic either...  I&#039;m no fan of Bob Hope, but geez -- that&#039;s taking things (and yourself) a bit too seriously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing better to do than criticize Bob Hope?  I&#8217;d guess it doesn&#8217;t take an artist to be a critic either&#8230;  I&#8217;m no fan of Bob Hope, but geez &#8212; that&#8217;s taking things (and yourself) a bit too seriously.</p>
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		<title>By: NoHope</title>
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		<dc:creator>NoHope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2012 17:49:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>None of this is funny.  The inimitable Christopher Hitchens artfully dissected Bob Hope&#039;s pitiful, unfresh, low-brow &quot;humor&quot;; see his piece in Slate:

&quot;The sexlessness of Hope&#039;s routines, however, was just another clue to their essential conformism and cowardice. Eye-rolling and wolf-whistling are among the weakest forms of crowd pleasing that we possess. And Hope never stretched or challenged an audience in his life. For him, the safe and antique moves were the best, if not the only. The smirk was principally one of risk-free self-congratulation.&quot; (from &quot;Hopeless&quot;)

Lauding somebody as an essential artist, favored by the hallowed and elusive Muse, a champion of beating the Resistance, or whatever other mystical attainments one may strive for in doing the work -- recognizing all that ought to be informed by basic good taste.  Bob Hope was a commercial success; he was not an artist.

I actually wonder sometimes where you draw the line: are highly successful pornographers artists?  Propagandists running Faux political news organizations?  Activists for overblown, false causes?

And likewise, is a man who, in Hitchens&#039;s words, &quot;was to the comedy of the [Vietnam] war what Nixon was to its negotiation and what Billy Graham was to its husky religiosity?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>None of this is funny.  The inimitable Christopher Hitchens artfully dissected Bob Hope&#8217;s pitiful, unfresh, low-brow &#8220;humor&#8221;; see his piece in Slate:</p>
<p>&#8220;The sexlessness of Hope&#8217;s routines, however, was just another clue to their essential conformism and cowardice. Eye-rolling and wolf-whistling are among the weakest forms of crowd pleasing that we possess. And Hope never stretched or challenged an audience in his life. For him, the safe and antique moves were the best, if not the only. The smirk was principally one of risk-free self-congratulation.&#8221; (from &#8220;Hopeless&#8221;)</p>
<p>Lauding somebody as an essential artist, favored by the hallowed and elusive Muse, a champion of beating the Resistance, or whatever other mystical attainments one may strive for in doing the work &#8212; recognizing all that ought to be informed by basic good taste.  Bob Hope was a commercial success; he was not an artist.</p>
<p>I actually wonder sometimes where you draw the line: are highly successful pornographers artists?  Propagandists running Faux political news organizations?  Activists for overblown, false causes?</p>
<p>And likewise, is a man who, in Hitchens&#8217;s words, &#8220;was to the comedy of the [Vietnam] war what Nixon was to its negotiation and what Billy Graham was to its husky religiosity?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Basilis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Basilis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2012 07:58:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A fresh approach is very important.And it has to be something unique but good, otherwise it&#039;ll be just rubbish.
So I guess it must be based on something true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A fresh approach is very important.And it has to be something unique but good, otherwise it&#8217;ll be just rubbish.<br />
So I guess it must be based on something true.</p>
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